VISIOgnomy Comments http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams Life in diagrams. en Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:45:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.2.2 by: phil http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams/archives/2005/05/19/chain-of-jedi-training-episode-ii/#comments Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:39:36 -0400 36:19@http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams um wasnt darth plegus palpatine’s sith master and palpatine killed him off, plegus might even be his fauther um wasnt darth plegus palpatine’s sith master and palpatine killed him off, plegus might even be his fauther

]]> by: Adam http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams/archives/2005/05/19/chain-of-jedi-training-episode-ii/#comments Sat, 21 May 2005 10:25:52 -0400 35:19@http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams I got the sense that Palpatine might have just made that whole thing up. I got the sense that Palpatine might have just made that whole thing up.

]]> by: Jarod http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams/archives/2005/05/19/chain-of-jedi-training-episode-ii/#comments Sat, 21 May 2005 01:22:16 -0400 34:19@http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams palpatine got trained by that heavy-duty ‘darth something-or-other’ that could prevent people from dying. He is probably the apprentice who killed him in his sleep. That would explain why yoda could figure out dooku but not sidius…. palpatine got trained by that heavy-duty ‘darth something-or-other’ that could prevent people from dying. He is probably the apprentice who killed him in his sleep. That would explain why yoda could figure out dooku but not sidius….

]]> by: Adam http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams/archives/2005/05/19/chain-of-jedi-training-episode-ii/#comments Thu, 19 May 2005 11:44:35 -0400 33:19@http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams I intrepreted that “Always there are two - master and servant” as more of a Yoda koan than anything else. In episode II, Count Dooku isn’t really a “Darth” figure, right? I think it’s more coincidence than anything else. If not, it doesn’t make much sense in having Luke join with the Dark Side in Jedi, because he’d have to kill either Vader or the Emperor to make room. I can see why Vader would want to encourage that, but it seems unlikely that the Emperor would want to knock off Vader in favor of Luke, and certainly a weird gamble if nothing else. I intrepreted that “Always there are two - master and servant” as more of a Yoda koan than anything else. In episode II, Count Dooku isn’t really a “Darth” figure, right?

I think it’s more coincidence than anything else. If not, it doesn’t make much sense in having Luke join with the Dark Side in Jedi, because he’d have to kill either Vader or the Emperor to make room. I can see why Vader would want to encourage that, but it seems unlikely that the Emperor would want to knock off Vader in favor of Luke, and certainly a weird gamble if nothing else.

]]> by: James Wetterau http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams/archives/2005/05/19/chain-of-jedi-training-episode-ii/#comments Thu, 19 May 2005 11:34:48 -0400 32:19@http://www.visiognomy.com/diagrams There are various comments in the movie signifying that there are always two Sith. (And perhaps there are always at least two potential Jedi?) People can go over to the dark side, but it seems that at any given time there are at most two living Sith “lords” or whatever the term should be for the “Darth"-titled characters. If one dies, another is trained to that role quickly. I suspect that Palpatine must have had a Sith master at some point whom the Jedi thought had died but who did not, and who trained Sidious in secret, like Luke on Dagobah. An alternate interpretation is that the Sith are always paired in master and servant relationships, and it’s just coincidence that there happen to be only two at any given time, perhaps because the Jedi have been nearly completely successful in wiping them out. There are various comments in the movie signifying that there are always two Sith. (And perhaps there are always at least two potential Jedi?) People can go over to the dark side, but it seems that at any given time there are at most two living Sith “lords” or whatever the term should be for the “Darth"-titled characters. If one dies, another is trained to that role quickly. I suspect that Palpatine must have had a Sith master at some point whom the Jedi thought had died but who did not, and who trained Sidious in secret, like Luke on Dagobah.

An alternate interpretation is that the Sith are always paired in master and servant relationships, and it’s just coincidence that there happen to be only two at any given time, perhaps because the Jedi have been nearly completely successful in wiping them out.

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